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Friday, 28 February 2014

I need some feedback from you lovely lot please.

Hi all. I have been pondering over the idea of maybe integrating a metal detector review area on this blog.

Unfortunately I can only review the machines I have or had before.

So this is where you lot come in. There are quite a few readers of this blog but only half a dozen comment makers so I was wondering if you lot think its a good idea or not and also a
show of hands to say who would be willing to write a review of detectors you have used.

im a true technophobe so I don't want to spend my life setting it up if its going to be unused and.

Let me know

regards

Wednesday, 26 February 2014

Grandad pulls grenade from the hole.

Just a warning to take care when out detecting.  A grandad and his grandchildren were having a day out metal detecting in a Devon field recently. Upon getting a good signal he dug down and thought there was an old silver ring in the hole. As he pulled the ring he realised it was attached to another object.

After a quick inspection he realised he was holding a live hand grenade in his hand. The full story can be read here

I think there are a couple of lessons to be learnt here the first is be extra vigilant if the site has the slightest evidence that munitions could be there.  Secondly do not take you children/grandchildren to a site where munitions could be buried.

No find is ever worth losing a hand, leg or life over.

keep safe

Check your change.

I have just read an article about the Kew Gardens 50p coin. Apparently they are selling on ebay for up to £120 !

Im a little gutted about this as I remember digging up a 50p coin on filey beach last spring which had that design on. Unfortunately any of the larger coin change I find ends up in a tesco self service machine so there is no chance of me getting £120 for the one I found, Doh!!

So check your 50p's before you make the same mistake as me.

Here is a link to the article

C scope cs4pi metal detector review.

A picture of a c scope cs4pi metal detector


C scope cs4pi metal detector review submitted by Andy B


 The C scope cs4pi is a pulse induction metal detector that is at the lower end of the budget at around £260 brand new. It is available from most of the major UK metal detector stockists.


C scope are a UK manufacturer with a customer service that is second to none. If you have a problem with your detector a quick phone call will find your problem resolved in no time.


The C scope cs4pi is a detector that is so easy to set up. Out of the box it is very easy to put together and shares the same control box and stem as the cs3mxi.  Using this metal detector is also very simple as the are only two dials to set.


 First off it needs turning on which you do by rotating the left sensitivity knob clockwise. Keep turning it until the detector is stable and not chattering which should be in the green area. Next up rotate the right hand side pulse frequency knob also into the green area, I personally find that if you adjust it from just after the mediun tone until it just gets into the high pitch tone as this seems to be more sensitive to gold rings. Well that's it your now set up and ready to go.


I found after a good few hours use you could start to tell when a target is iron as the tone is very deep and scratchy. Also coins seem to make a noise that is a lot smoother and quieter and as strange as it sounds an almost like fizzing noise. I have had viccy penny's at a depth of around 15 inches on wet sand with this detector which is more than enough as the holes tend to fall in on themselves. The only drawbacks of this detector is its not got any discrimination like all other pi detectors. Also it is not waterproof which for a machine that has a main use on the beach is quite a downside. To sum it up if you mind digging every signal from very deep then the 4pi is a cheap way to get into beach detecting. It is not affected by mineralisation or other factors like wet black sand. Although they have a tendency to like red house bricks.


I highly recommend the C scope cs4pi metal detector if you are serious about metal detecting on the beach, unfortunately you will really struggle to use it on land due to the fact there is no discrimination at all.



C scope cs4pi metal detector review, submitted by Paul T, Blackpool.


I bought my C scope cs4pi metal detector to use as my primary beach metal detector as my Minelab x-terra 305 was terrible at hunting on the wet sand, which when you live at Blackpool is not a good thing.


My first few trips out with this metal detector were an absolute nightmare, all I seemed to did was iron and by the ton! However after a good few hours of use under my belt I started to be able to tell the difference between an iron signal and a signal that I would want to dig.


Coins seem to make a sharp buzzing sound that can be quite faint and quiet so its very important to use with a decent set of headphones so you don't miss any of the good signals. Iron makes a really loud sound and it unmistakable once you learn it.


I hardly ever dig iron now and dig coins by the bucket load. So far I have only managed to dig one piece of gold, a nice 18ct wedding band, but you to walk over it to find it I guess. I know that I wont be changing the C scope cs4pi metal detector any time soon as its a great beach machine that does everything I need it too.


Tuesday, 25 February 2014

Hoping too get out detecting this weekend.

Hopefully I might get out detecting this weekend if the weather stays good.

Im still not sure where to go, I have no land permissions so it will either be the Humber foreshore or along the East coast somewhere.

my home built pulse induction detector is 90% complete so it would be nice to test that on the beach at possibly Filey or Scarborough.  During air tests with my home made 13 inch coil it was detecting a thin gold ring at 10 inches which im sure will increase with the help of some wet sand.

Is anyone else out detecting this weekend?


Monday, 24 February 2014

c scope cs3mxi review

A picture of a c scope cs3mxi metal detector


C scope cs3mxi metal detector review by Andy B


The C scope cs3mxi is another entry level metal detector, this time though it is a home-grown UK metal detector. C scope are renowned for their excellent and second to none customer care, in fact when I had this metal detector the coil developed a fault after around 4 months, possibly due to me being to rough around rape seed stalks. A quick call to C scope had me a brand new coil delivered only two days later, no questions asked and I didn't even have to return the faulty coil.


The C scope cs3mxi can be purchased brand new for around £260 from many of the main metal detector stockists. At this price though it is already around £70 more than its rival entry level detectors such as the Garrett and Teknetics models which means it needs to make up for things in its performance.


Out of the box the C scope cs3mxi metal detector is very simple to put together by following the easy to understand instruction manual. It is quite light and feels well put together.


This metal detector is so easy to operate and perfect for the beginner metal detectorist. The detector is operated by two dials and one pinpoint button so it is very much a switch on and go machine.


The left hand side dial operates the on/off function and also sets the sensitivity that is run, it is best to run the sensitivity in the designated green area as any more than this and it can cause the detector to start acting erratic  with false signals.


The dial on the right controls the discrimination settings, I found it was best to keep the discrimination just before number four as this means it ignores most iron but does not miss any of the goodies.


The last control is the pinpoint button. By pressing this button the machine switches to a non motion detector and the closer the sweet spot on the coil is to the find the louder and higher pitched the sound gets. The pinpoint feature is also very accurate and I could guarantee would be dead centre of the coil inside the centre polo hole.


The C scope cs3mxi is a great metal detector, it may not be massively deep but it makes up for this with its great discrimination and lightening fast recovery speeds.   It is also very easy to use and makes an excellent first metal detector or even a great back up metal detector for the more experienced user. When I had mine I had no problem finding hammered silver coins and gold rings.




C scope cs3mxi metal detector review submitted by Darren S.


The C scope cs3mxi metal detector is the first metal detector I have owned. I bought it based on its simple and easy to use set up as I didn't want to get swamped in settings and adjustments such as the ones found on many metal detectors available.


So far I have found it to be a great little machine which has had no problem finding me all sorts of coins and artefacts. I have noticed though that most of my coin finds are in the top six inches of the soil, I am not sure if this is down to the depth of the machine or if I just have not come across a deeper one yet.


The only other minus side to the C scope cs3mxi that I have come across is that it seems to love iron. Even with the discrimination set as high as possible without it ignoring the good stuff I still manage to dig a good load of iron. I am not to bothered though as it means I wont miss anything good which can happen if you ignore some of the scratchy iron signals.


Overall I am very impressed so far with this metal detector and i would really recommend it to anyone who is just getting in to the hobby, maybe not the experienced detectorist though as it really is basic in its set up.





Saturday, 22 February 2014

nice finds but you have destroyed that site.....

I was just checking news on metal detecting looking for some inspiration for a new blog post when I stumbled upon this article from Kent,  England.

The first thing I noticed was the beauty of the finds, I have never dug a find that is Anglo-saxon. To see those fittings and broaches with enanal still on them is pretty amazing.

And then it hits you.... look at the state of the site now. It looks as though a jcb has gone wild. The context of that find has been destroyed,  if it was a burial site its been decimated now.

I wonder if at any point one of the detectorists there thought maybe we should ring the flo to get some advice before we cause any more damage?  Im guessing not.

At the end of the day they are well within the law and their rights to do what they did. But surely comman sense dictates that they should have seeked professional guidance wheb they realised what they were onto.

Side note- This is not ethical detecting.

Friday, 21 February 2014

Garrett ATX is it worth it ?

All metal detector reviews have been moved to my new site which can be reached by clicking this link or using this url www.metaldetectorreview.co.uk

Wednesday, 19 February 2014

Treasure act reform.

Earlier on today a comment was posted by Paul Barford on this blog stating that I had not authorised a comment he had sent to me about his views of and thoughts and of a treasure act reform.  This was not the case as I always publish every comment unless it has bad language.  It seems the comment has been lost in the blogosphere somewhere.

So I am inviting Paul to type it up again and post it in this new topic if he has the time as I for one am very interested in what he has to say on the subject.

Maybe for once a decent discussion could come of it ?!


Monday, 17 February 2014

Paul Barford and Nigel Swift working against their targets.

Paul  Barford and Nigel Swift both have decent blogs with plenty of readers.  They both have good content with quite a few interesting articles.

The both appear to want the same thing, a more governed, ethical and above all a more responsible approach to metal detecting.

Now that's all fine and dandy, its a view a lot of detectorists have too im sure (me included). So I have to pose the question, why do they both choose to operate in a manner that is counter proactive?

You only have too trawl their respective blogs for a few seconds to find that they have been cutting and pasting information and conversations from other blogs and metal detecting forums. They then take time to dissect these sentences and try to make it show the poster in the worst possible light.

So how does this help anyone or anything?  Well the answer is it doesn't.  It gains them more readers and followers but does not help the causes they shout out about one bit.

If they tried interacting with metal detectorists and gave their views and worries in a way that doesn’t include calling metal detectorists thick or slack jaws or whatever other put downs they think of then maybe people would start listening.  Untill then im sure you will both just keep the label of trolls.

Which is unfair as im sure you could have some good input.

I look forward to seeing this post cut and shut on your blogs shortly

Sunday, 16 February 2014

night hawks do not exist, apparently

Paul has done me the honour of giving me another five minutes of fame on his blog, see here. This time it refers to my blog post today of permission refusals.

I will be honest I do know know what the man is talking about. I dont know if he Is accusing me of being a liar or if he Is saying that the oxford study is false.

He appears to think night hawking is not as big a problem as it is in the metal detecting andffarming community.  I find this a strange conclusion to come to given I don't believe he has any first hand experience of knocking on doors for permission.

He has however read a study by some Oxford academics. Well case closed then I must have imagined being refused by just under half the local East Yorkshire farms I have visited in person. I must also have made up their reasons being due to night hawk activity.


permission hunt results......

Well I was up early doors today with high expectations of maybe securing a land based permission.  Im not one to sit at the computer researching and looking for specific history rich land most of my joy for metal detecting is just being out in the open and fresh air with some quality time to just walk around and have some thinking time. A good find for me is just a bonus.

So with that it was literally just a matter of getting in the car and driving and stopping at any farm I passed.

the first farm was daunting, there is always a feeling of unease in the pit of my stomach, the fear of rejection I guess. Anyway after knocking on the door and waiting a minute no one answered, not a great start but farmers are busy people.

The second and third farms I dropped in on were straight no's and the muttering of people going on their land without permission before.  Permission searching really opens your eyes to how huge a problem night hawking really is, it seems nearly every farmer has a story too tell. I do take pity on them, I know I wouldn't be happy to wake up one morning to find someone has left holes in my back garden,  but its by far a bigger deal for them as its their livelihoods that are affected.

Back on track I went to the fourth farm. The farmer was an old gent in typical farmer wear. Ididnt hold much hope. However he took interest in what I said, he even went as far as saying he wants to have a look at the PAS system. Unfortunately it was still a no as all his fields were seeded however he said to pop back at harvest season and he might have a small area for me to cover. I thanked him and got back on the road. Will it turn into a permission or was he just humouring me ? I dont know but there is hope now.

The last too farmers were pleasant but they both gave definitive no answers which is fair enough its their land.

So for now it looks like it back to the murky foreshore but maybe im the summer things will be different

Saturday, 15 February 2014

The permission trail

Its time to get back on the permission hunt tomorrow.  Detecting the Humber is good and there is plenty of targets to dig but it is very messy back breaking work. The beach is out of bounds for me at the moment as I sold my c scope 4pi to fund a new bedroom carpet.

So tomorrow I plan on a little bit of door knocking to see whats available if anything.  It has been a while since I last gabe gave it a go as there is only so much rejection I can take in one sitting.

I will post how I get on

happy hunting

Finally got out detecting.

Well I managed to squeeze in a couple of hours today at my favourite foreshore under the Humber bridge. It was horrible weather with the wind blasting straight off the cold river.

The settings used on my teknetics eurotek pro were sensitivity 7, zero discrimination but iron audio 10 .

I focused on the area under the bridge due to it being full of modern coinage tossed over the bridge and the chance of gold and silver rings from relationship breakdowns. Plenty of digging to keep me warm.

the finds were all modern with loads of small change.  I also managed to find a couple of older style 10p and 50p coins and also a 1960 1 franc.

Other finds were too door keys and dog tags, a few bits of rubbish cleaned off the foreshore . My personal favourite find wad the matchbox fighter jet. Under the wing its stamped with a date of 1977. A shame its in the condition it is but I suppose that happens when something has been in the Humber for possibly over 35 years.

It was nice to be out for the first In months.



Friday, 14 February 2014

Is collecting wrong ?

Both Paul Barford and Nigel Swift appear to be very negative to the thought of artefact collecting. I personally have never really found a great deal, maybe due to the vast majority of my detecting being conducted on the beaches and foreshores of the east coast.

I do however have two hammered coins that I found during my first few months detecting,  a james 1st shilling and an Edward v1 shilling. I also have a few copper coins ranging from George 11 and a couple of livery buttons and military buttons. The majority of my finds have been recent loss coinage and recent loss jewellery.

I just wondered really what everyone's opinion is on the subject of collecting coins and artefact you find ?

PAS, treasure and code of conduct.

It has just occurred to me that here could be a good place to give our the much needed information to all new detectorists, readers considering it and also for some of the more veteran detectorists to refresh themselves with the rules and codes.

I know when I first started and until I joined an Internet metal detecting forum I had never heard of PAS, the code of conduct and the treasure act 1996. There seems to be a worryinglack of iinformation for new detectorists unless they go searching for it, but if you dont know about it then its hard to search for.

So here are three sites you need to take a look at before you start your adventures.

PAS database and info

treasure act 1996

detectorists code of conduct

please take time to read and absorb all the information that is there. These are essentials and without them you cannot start being an ethical detectorist

happy hunting

would changes incorporating the scottish treasure trove system beneft us

I have been sent a post to publish by the anonymous reader KPVW unfortunately it was posted in a post from yesterday.  So since it is a good valid question I have set up a new post and will quote his message below


"Andy Just to get things back on track, what would your own personal views be on an change in the current Treasure Act legislation to something similar to the Scottish Treasure act? I know Nigel Swifts ethical metal detecting pledges but think a lot of those are to far reaching at this time and also those pledges seem to have had no input from detectorists themselves. KPVW "

Before I start here  is a link to the treasure trove information page so everyone can have a read up.

I believe the Scottish treasue system is great. I think it has many concepts in it that we could incorporate into our system. For a start the fact that all coins that were issued in 1707 and before have to be reported something unheard of in our treasure system.

I also like the way newer items can be also deemed treasure if it is of historical importance to the nation's past.

Non precious metal finds being recorded as treasure here in England is very rare where as in Scotland many finds have been declared treasure for there importance in history instead of the metal they were made from.

We could definitely benefit by implementing some of the treasure trove ideas and coupling it up with our own pas system.

Thanks for the post KPVW

please let me know all of your  thoughts


The recent storms.

Britain has been relentlessly battered by heavy storms for the last couple of months. The storms have brought devastation to many communities around the UK.

I really hope the people effected by any of the weather we have been experiencing manage to rebuild their lives and my heart goes out to the families who have had their homes flooded.

Despite all the devastation there have been many exciting discoveries around the coasts due to the sands being shifted by the winds and rough seas.

For example in Happisburgh on the Norfolk coast  the sands washed away to reveal the oldest human footprints found in Europe. The interesting story is available by clicking here

I was also paticularly interested in the article about two cannons believed to have been used during the napoleonic war. The link to this article is here

I wonder if anymore fascinating finds will come to light after the storm on last Wednesday.

let me know if any off you have found anything interesting uncovered by the storms

Wednesday, 12 February 2014

Artefacts on ebay

I know many of you are going too tell me to butt out, but im going to say it anyway.

A quick search of ebay uk with the keywords metal detector finds bring up hundreds of listings of detector found items, many of them are uncleaned and look like they were dug that day.

Now we all say its not about the money its about the history, and lets be fair half these items are the more mundane finds and only sell for a couple of quid.

How about we start making changes why not instead take your unwanted finds to your local flo or museum and see if you can donate them.

do your bit for history

Heritage Actions phoney artefact erosion counter.

I feel its about time I wrote about the above subject. Heritage action have an artefact erosion counter shown Here.

It is obvious that some corrupt metal detectorists will dig up artefacts and either not report them or record them. However this counter is a load of tosh. First of all how was it decided how quickly the counter would tick when they themselves admit that what happens on a field is a secret.

Secondly can you prove its accurate by naming any single one item and the date and time it was dug out the ground? You know, one of the items you have counted?

Third reason, I just checked the erosion counter. Its still there ticking away, infact its counted 402 artefacts that have been dug up today already ( mostly unreported to the pas apparently). 402 artefacts today, that's right four hundred and two ! Strange that really when I just stepped out side I was nearly blown over by 80mph winds and driving rain. Which means there must be some real hardy detectorists out there digging the artefacts that the counter has counted.

Pull the other one guys. Some of us are trying to make metal detecting more ethical but we dont need you guys ramming this fictional and majorly non reliable counter in the publics face.

Wow its at 414 now.

Tuesday, 11 February 2014

Wiltshire ornament horizon hoard declared treasure

Well done to the finders of the ornament horizon hoard for getting it declared as treasure. I cant help feeling though that this is a scenario were a capped finders fee is needed as it will be such a shame if the Salisbury museum cannot meet the asking price for the hoard. It would be best if it could stay local. Link to the story here

Sunday, 9 February 2014

Metal detecting rallies, are you in or are you out?

The link below is a fictional scenario posed by farmer Brown aka Nigel Swift on his heritage action blog. My question to the readers of this blog is would you attend a rally if it was set up like that?

heritage action on rallies

I personally do not attend metal detecting rallies for a variety of reasons
 One of the main reasons being that I dont like the idea of hundreds of detctorists all on a rampant mission to make a find. There is too much rush, to much sloppy detecting.

Holes dont get back filled correctly,  finds are literally ripped out the ground so the next fimd can be made sooner.  Its also a lot more difficult for to keep track of whats been found and by who and where abouts. I honestly do not think this money making sceme by some organisations is right or fair.

I believe changes need to be made to the current way rallies are held and to be honest I think some of the large ones need to be stopped altogether.  I know this post is likely to get the backs up of some detctorists but let me know your views anyway.

Saturday, 8 February 2014

teknetics eurotek pro review.

A photo of a teknetics eurotek pro metal detector


Teknetics Eurotek pro review submitted by Andy B


The Teknetics Eurotek Pro metal detector is an entry level metal detector that comes full with features that are normally only available on much more expensive metal detectors.  Upon taking the machine from its box and assembling it using the easy to understand instruction book, you can tell that this is a well built machine. It has a very sturdy feel to it and all the parts fit together perfectly.


The Teknetics Eurotek Pro is trying to break through into an already very well established beginner end of the hobby, it has a lot of work to do if its to make its mark against the Garretts and Fisher machines.


One nice touch that you will notice is the cover that slides over the headphone socket when its not in use. a simple thing but one I have not seen on a machine before and it will defiantly help by stopping mud and dirt getting in the headphone jack.


When you turn the Teknetics Eurotek Pro metal detector on the lcd screen springs to life with a beep. It is easy to navigate having only 5 buttons to control it, on/off, menu, pinpoint and plus and minus.


By clicking on the menu button we can enter into the setup of the metal detector, first off is the sensitivity which I usually keep in the set standard of 7 although it can be increased to 10 or decreased to 1 depending where to are metal detecting. The next setting is the discrimination setting which I generally leave alone because this metal detector has an amazing feature which I will get onto now.


The third menu option is volume, by increasing or decreasing the volume from levels 1-9 it will will obviously be quieter or louder in your headphones or the speaker. however the Teknetics Eurotek Pro has a really cool feature. If you turn the volume to level 10 it acts as an iron volume control, by doing this you are running in all metal mode so you will be running the metal detector at its maximum depth whilst the machine will be total silent on detection of iron. I have never seen this feature on a metal detector in this price range and was blown away with how effective it is.


Another point to note about the Teknetics Eurotek Pro is its lightening fast recovery time. If the metal detector runs over iron and there is another object nearby it will still detect the good object lying beside the iron as it recovers really quick from the first iron signal.


All in all The Teknetics Eurotek Pro metal detector is a great bit of kit. It performs amazingly and in my mind is just as good if not better than the other entry level metal detectors in its class. I personally own one of these metal detectors and would not part with it as its a simple to use and effective treasure hunter.


The retail price on this detector with the standard 8 inch spider coil is around £180, great value for money



Teknetics Eurotek pro metal detector review submitted by Pete D.


The Teknetics Eurotek pro absolutely rocks, I used to own a Minelab Etrac but due to unforeseen circumstances I had to sell up an give up metal detecting for a while. After a while I decided to get back into the hobby but could no longer afford to buy a hight end detector. So after a lot of deliberating I opted to buy the Eurotek, I wasn't disappointed. Ok, I will not lie its no where near as deep as the etrac but it doesn't even cost 1/5th of what the etrac cost me. I really have nothing bad to say about it. If you decide to buy one you wont be disappointed, but make sure you buy the pro as the standard one does not have the iron audio feature which is worth its weight in gold . happy hunting.



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Friday, 7 February 2014

FLO's whats you opinion of them ?

Just a quick post hoping for some of your experiences of dealing with your local finds liaison officer. Have you found it easy to report your finds to them and receive positive identification,  have you had any problems ?

I personally haven't had much luck. A while ago I found a bronze ring this ring had a lovely pattern around it it was a very crude ring with a crude solder joint. It looked old to me very old. Plus the fact I found iton exposed clay on a beach that had reportings of roman fibula broaches, roman grot coins and also a celtic stater.

I took several high definition photos and wrote a detailed description of the ring and where it was found and also what other items has been found around that area. I found my local flo email address and sent it to them.

The response was rubbish,  basically because I didnt receive a response after one month. So I thought maybe the email wasnt received so I resent it, along with sending it to another two flo just for good measure. Still after another month I had not heard a thing and still to this day haven't.  I have tried ringing them and they are never im the office

Are they that over worked or do the have the best holiday package ever ?

Please let me know you're experiences bad abd good.

More national praise for detectorists.

A small report taken from the bbc showing yet more praise for the work we are doing im helping to build a picture of our history

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-26049878


There is still a stigma towards metal detecting here but with more and more good reports like this in the public domain the tide is turning.

keep up the good work everyone and keep reporting your finds

Thursday, 6 February 2014

a little about me.

How rude of me I haven't even introduced myself.

Im Andy, 28  born and raised in the  United Kingdom.

I have always been fascinated with history at school I always loved learning about the romans and vikings ect... but unfortunately I always wanted to try being one of the cool kids,  due to this I missed out on learning about what I enjoyed due to it being classes as not cool, sad I know and a big regret.

so it was by total accident whilst walking round a car boot sale one summers day a couple of years ago I spotted a metal detector for sale.  That was it my spark for history was back and now I was old enough and wise enough not to worry about not being cool.

untill recently I had no cares or worries about how I conducted my hobby and as much as it pains me to say it there are just some things that are not right with it as it stands. There is too much sloppy detecting going on as im going to start calling it. Its time for change, its time to clean up the media and publics perception of this great hobby.


Starting point

Well, inspired by the blogs of steve broom aka I-go detecting and also the fierce debate on Paul barford's blog I have decided to start my own.

This blog is going too be following my progress through my hobby of metal detecting. It is also going to be a place open to debate about the thoughs and perceptions of the hobby.

im hoping between us all we can work towards a goal of taking a more ethical approach to metal detecting.  We are lucky to be in a country where we are legally aloud to do this hobby that we enjoy so much and we dont want to lose that right.

I want the conversation here to stay clean, no bad language,  no vulgar conversation, other than that there will be no moderation to posts. If you dont like what I talk about in this blog ir are against what I say that's fine, let me know.

welcome aboard everyone